It's Official, GOP Loses Its Damn Mind
  • Trump is the presumptive Republican nominee. The most openly sexist, racist, xenophobic, narcissistic, and most easily angered candidate in living memory. A guy who is comfortable making fun of the physically disabled in front of a crowd. A guy who just accused an opponents father of being a part of JFKs assassination, based on a tabloid story. A guy who has talked openly about how we need to invade the middle east, again, and just take the oil. Don't like American imperialism? Meet a guy clearly wants to be an emporer way more than a president. How easy is it to imagine Trump getting mad at a situation and blurting out, "Just nuke 'em!"? If somebody tells him he can't? "Yer fired!" Then we all get to die in nuclear fire, imagining the squinty eyed, pouty lipped New Jersey up yours face he made when he killed us all.
  • I told you this would happen.

    Couldn't be happier. You get the government you deserve. 

    Trump 2016! Burn it all down!
  • Some of us got kids and have not gone full nihilist.
  • I think Hillary will win; she has yet to lose a poll against Trump and Trump's disapproval numbers among general election voters are high, but it is incredibly frustrating and scary that this man has made it as far as he has, and the fact that he has a chance at winning is supremely disparaging. Then again, Trump is the kind of guy who clearly would win 100 years ago, and I maintain that Richard Nixon is every bit as bad and narcissistic and deceitful a human as Trump is, and he was president even more recent than that.

    Still, this poll I think sums up a lot of Republican batshitness in one go:

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  • You always assume so much westsw. It exposes you for the ass you are.
  • Burn it all down is a classic nihilist statement. I'm just going with what you give me. You may not be as complex as you imagine.
  • If Hillary wins, you get an radical feminist, which is led by the same banks that got your country to fall in 2008.
  • It doesn't matter who wins at this point, the top three candidates are all nihilistic, nepotistic, narcissistic bastards who use populist rhetoric to gain favor with laymen who are so dissonant from any spectrum of how the real world works that we're collectively fucked. 

    Also, Trump should have been swallowed by his mother.
  • I am deeply unexcited about Hilary. She is a classic, more of the same, candidate. I simply prefer her to a guy who could use a National Enquirer story as a reason to go to war. I prefer generic crappy to we could all die crazy. Democracy sometimes requires some nose holding.
    Noobied by 1sloth
  • We will finally see if Nostradamus was right Mad Max 3D here we come!
  • Except Hillary is a criminal of fantastic proportions. Covering up Billy's rapes, deleting emails, et-fucking-cetera. But hey, what difference does it make? Oh yeah, but Trump's the misogynist. ROFL at your stupid.

    Yep. Typical lefty bullshit. Claim to be all about that tolerance and then go fucking apeshit at the drop of a hat. If you consider yourself a member of the progressive left, I mourn for the waste of sperm that is you.


  • Kind of amazing that Trump is getting more blatantly racist. Saying a judge, or anyone, cannot do their job, based solely on their ethnic background, is definitional racism.
  • Republicans calling him out on the racism and then maintaining their support for him is funny in that it does the work of confirming that they are racist or accept racism at some level.
  • They know their base.
  • Trump is deplorable, but if you're going to pretend the Democrats aren't bigots then you're either delusional, devoid of integrity, or horrifically unaware. 

    Hillary's abiding by her husband's super predator comments and the late Marion Barry's dirty Asian comments are just some of those hateful remarks that get a pass because they're "liberal."

    It's the least funny absurdity I've ever come across. The moral decay is real.
  • Is Marion Barry running for president? Pretty sure he's dead. He is exactly the kind of guy you would have to sink to to find a "Trump equivalent Democrat". An actual crack user is a great Trump parallel. I am not a big fan of Hillary, but between her and a guy so racist he does not even recognize his racism when it is explained to him in simple terms, I pick Hillary. Elections sometimes yield dissapointing versus "Holy God, what disaster! It's like Snooki is running for President!" kind of choices.

    If you want to get real depressed about the state of Republican politics, the polling shows most folks recognize that Trumps statements are racist, however a majority of Republicans do not think that saying a federal judge is unfit for his job, based on his ethnic background, is racist. Beyond Trump losing badly, good Republicans have to worry their party is just going to turn into a white identity party.
  • Everyone is right to hate Trump, just as everyone is right to hate Hillary. The two have aligned in the past. I will never understand why everyone is so averse to voting third party. 

    I'd much rather my left leaning friends vote for straight up Communist than play in the confines of the current paradigm. 
  • Gotta stop Trump. Beyond being a pig, he's also the most likely to use nukes, and he would obviously use the presidency to settle scores. Day one, he would give the Justice department and the IRS a list O names. Third party gave us Bush over Gore. Thanks a bunch assholes.
  • I've talked to campaigners and political science majors, and honestly, real change comes from within moving the parties, not voting third party. There will probably never be a third party of significance in our lifetime. So you have to work to move from within. Obama did this with health care when he first came to office, and Sanders did it most recently by getting Hillary to concede to a $15 minimum wage. Changing party platforms and mission statements, whether you're Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Socialist, Anarchist, whatever, is where the real political change comes from in America. The system is not setup to foster third parties or sweeping parliamentary-like changes. You will do more for libertarianism as an on-the-grounds person for one of the major parties where you can talk to people, register people, and work to shift things locally.
  • That's what Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders did, and while I have to admit that it works, it's an integrity issue for me. As far as I'm concerned, the ends cannot simply justify the means. If I have to work within the system and play by their rules in order to change it, then I really am no different than those I oppose.

    It's not entirely pragmatic, a lot of it is ethics. I'm more interested in doing the right thing for the right reasons and creating a better world that way than manipulating things to work in my favor. 
  • Well another mass shooting and another opportunity for America to ignore the ubiquity of cheap military grade firearms. Trump has renewed his call to ban Muslim immigration. Of course the shooter was born here, but many of Trumps supporters believe he just wants to deport all Muslims, and they are more than cool with that. Let's outlaw a religion practiced by 1.6 billion, because that is not unconstitutional or crazy. That is where Trumps base is at. Oh yeah, Trump is also banning reporters he does not like, so fuck freedom of the press.
  • Trump
    No surprise. Horrible, inhuman, insufferable; nothing new here. No one should vote for him. Still doesn't change how I see the overall election.

    Guns
    There are only two sides here: people who want guns and people who want to abolish them; there can't be a middle ground on this. The people who want guns aren't bad people, and the people who want to abolish them aren't bad either. We need to learn how to have an effective discourse here where informed people speak on each subject. With the NRA and media leading the discussion, we have neither.

    The Tragedy
    Horrific attack on the gay community. This was an issue of one persons religious doctrine motivating them to do something completely unforgivable. This isn't an issue with just Islam though. Anyone who read their bible growing up knows there's more than one religion out there that hates the LGBQT community. People are allowed to have and practice their religions; doesn't mean we can't critique them for their open bigotry and scientific inaccuracies. 
  • We are in a middle ground on guns. You can't own a grenade launcher or mount a 50 cal on you truck. We need to think about what rational guns laws would look like. The founders never imagined that the village idiot would be able to afford technology that could kill dozens in a few minutes. A musket cost a year of labor in some cases. A whole different world than ours.
  • The musket argument needs to die. It's like the "magazine-clip" argument in which anyone who owns a guns is going to look at that person and say "You clearly don't know what you're talking about. I refuse to have this conversation with you."


    Most gun violence occurs with common hand guns, the kind I have sitting in my house right now. We've found that many mass shooters have handguns on them at the time of a shooting.

    We're not even focusing on the issues(I've listed them before) that could prevent gun violence in America, and we're not having an honest or educated discussion regarding guns. It's an issue, I'm not going to pretend that it's not, but I'm not going to forgo statistically relevant information and use baseless rhetoric either. 

    If people want gun bans, fine, that's at least a valid argument at this point. Pass a gun ban, but I honestly don't believe it will fix most of the problems we have at hand. It won't diminish all other forms of violence either. It's just one of those things that make people feel safe. 
  • Maybe common hand guns need to become less common.
  • I used to be ok with handguns and hunting rifles but the evidence is too compelling to not have a systemic, blanket-wide mandatory buyback and ban of most/all firearms. Even if you work with a (false) prior that it wouldn't stem homicides, it would certainly stem suicides.

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