• please help stop joseph kony

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  • Yeah Blood Diamond and everything in Africa's just been a mess for a very long time, I really doubt it'd end no matter how much we pump into it. So I'm wondering how ppl criticize the Anti-terrorist war yet support this. Plus he's doing the exact same thing as Kony himself, just in a socialist manner. I hate to seem like an anti-humanist but I think I'll just sit back and watch the fireworks. Support the US economy all by my lonesome thank you :). For all I'd know those little bracelet thingys could be tracking devices for when he DOES attack :) <--- joking, but yeah... I'm very skeptical what guarantee do I have that this isn't propaganda from Kony himself used to fund his own operations? He's apparently very scared and the media is SO unreliable we could be lied to our face and hardly even know it!
  • oh i understand completely, but regardless i think the guy needs to be stoped..wich is why me and a couple hundred others in my area are taking part..but we are doing it independantly..not pushing any money into the charity itself but still raising awareness. we are printing out posters, getting stickers made with our own money etc..
  • Wow totally didn't expect that, I like your idea! Nothing against this guy, just I like that your covering your bases! I'm not saying he's got anything but the best of intentions but the way this has spread I'm just a little skeptical, it's great in theory, but it could also be one large scam. Anyway love what your doin! Good luck to ya, I may consider it better now.
  • Free your mind.

    [youtube]QdkI-PoVo64[/youtube]
  • That was awesome, Sunny!
  • I agree that internet activism is just about the lamest thing out there, and that Uganda has a lot of issues that Kony2012 doesn't discuss. But anything that makes people look beyond their own borders and recognise that the world can be an incredibly cruel and horrible place isn't a bad thing is it?

    Also, I'll free my own mind when I'm good and ready, you're not the boss of me!
  • dude has the whitest teeth ever.
  • knowname said:
    dude has the whitest teeth ever.


    I'm sayin! He looks like a dentist turned hobo :P

    Or better yet, just a dentist from the hood.
  • Kony 1999!
  • That was a terrible video (not the OP one).

    Honestly, the backlash against this screams of trying to be edgy, and it's filled with more misinformation than the campaign itself.

    Yes, Inivisble Children have some major financial questions.
    Yes, they need to spend more money on charitable goods.
    No, they are not trying to build a racial narrative. The vast majority of people working for them are Ugandan.
    Yes, they have helped build schools and create clubs and activities for victims.
    Yes, the Ugandan government is terrible, but the Reddit post and Wheaton post and all the other deceitful complaining is made up. None of their money goes to the Ugandan government or military. That's a big, big no-no, anyways.
    Yes, internet activism is a bit wonky. But internet activism has not replaced real activism, it's replaced no activism.

    As an aside, volunteering among young adults is higher than it used to be in the 80s and 90s. Food for thought.
  • GoodEnoughForMe said:
    As an aside, volunteering among young adults is higher than it used to be in the 80s and 90s. Food for thought.


    Bigger population. :)
  • I'm sorry I had to go there.........
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    alright i'll stop
  • Why now? Kony has been around for decades, and out of Uganda for years (apparently. Nobody knows where he is obviously). He's also on the US' terrorist hit list so the dude's life is essentially on a timer anyway. What outcome are people hoping will come of all this YouTubing? And what bee flew into the Internet's bonnet to set all this off?

    And if some Internet heroes want to make a documentary, leaflet and poster campaign, or anything else, they should at least get it factually correct.
  • Sunflower said:
    Bigger population. :)


    Actually less. Lower birth rate up until 2007, and the 80s and 90s had the baby boomer teens and young adults.

    I meant as a percentage, anyways. :P
  • GoodEnoughForMe said:
    Actually less. Lower birth rate up until 2007, and the 80s and 90s had the baby boomer teens and young adults.


    So you're saying there are less humans on earth than there were 5 years ago?
  • Sunflower said:
    So you're saying there are less humans on earth than there were 5 years ago?


    Where did I say that? I specifically referenced young adults.

    There was a smaller number of 18-25 year olds in America in the 2000s than the 1980s and 1990s.
  • GoodEnoughForMe said:
    Where did I say that? I specifically referenced young adults.

    There was a smaller number of 18-25 year olds in America in the 2000s than the 1980s and 1990s.


    Oh, America. :D
  • Sunflower said:
    Free your mind.

    [youtube]QdkI-PoVo64[/youtube]




    "that part of the world is fucked up. That shits been going on long before Kony showed up and it's gonna continue long after he's gone."

    Oh OKAY. And just whose fault does he think that is? Certainly centuries of enslavement, pass laws, apartheid and other injustices brought upon the African people by colonization and multiple governments (mainly white) had nothing to do with it. Those crimes of humanity didn't change their character, they are just innately a "fucked up" part of the world that no one should care about.

    *shakes head*

    There's nothing wrong with educating people to care about something that goes passed their borders. Sure, we should care about our own problems too, but last time I checked, a person could care about more than one issue at a time. Education and revealing injustice should never be considered a worthless endeavor. Even if people just hear about something and admit that it's wrong, it's better than ignorant full-on apathy. Many of these governments got away with what they did because they thought no one could give two shits about some distant part of the world. Who's this douchebag to lecture everyone else about idleness?

    "clicking like on Facebook doesn't make you a good person. Fact: Being a good person takes a lot of damn hard work and unfortunately, most of us in this generation don't give a shit about hard work. blah blah blah So you say you wanna make a difference? Do you? Or do you just wanna look like you make a difference?"


    Oh damn, the jig is up, everyone! He knows personally what every person does with their spare time and anyone who likes a cause on Facebook is just "bragging" about it and not actually doing anything. So glad he's here to reveal that fact!!

    Did he even bother to watch the original video? People are doing something about it. There's people doing good things all over the world right now...just because they're not posting a message about it on Facebook doesn't mean things are not being set in motion. People are more aware of the rest of the world now and they can change it for the better. And that means more to me than all the bitter crack head-looking wiggers in the world who try to challenge others by being an edgy asshole.
  • Brisby said:
    bitter crack head-looking wiggers

    [youtube]nE2f5gOusrM[/youtube]
  • Chip said:
    [youtube]nE2f5gOusrM[/youtube]


    haha, someone actually had sex with him and reproduced? *shudders*
  • Dr Flibble said:
    Why now? Kony has been around for decades, and out of Uganda for years (apparently. Nobody knows where he is obviously). He's also on the US' terrorist hit list so the dude's life is essentially on a timer anyway. What outcome are people hoping will come of all this YouTubing? And what bee flew into the Internet's bonnet to set all this off?

    And if some Internet heroes want to make a documentary, leaflet and poster campaign, or anything else, they should at least get it factually correct.


    Why not now?

    Kony is still an asshole. The point is, we're mad as hell and we're not gonna take it anymore. The guy in the OP video, along with invisible children, is stirring up shit to make people pay attention. It is a practice used by many people (yourself included) to draw attention to causes.

    Oddly enough, it has a tendency of working... to a point. To what point? Only one way to find out. Bottom line, Kony's doing/has done a ton of awful, awful, bad shit, we want that to stop, we're being vocal about it. I, as an individual, may be helpless to do anything. But as a thorn in the side of my political representatives, I along with other people can champion a cause and make it a popular, trendy thing that politicians will give a fuck about.

    I think that the saddest thing in all of this is that no one gave a shit till Invisible Children made it sexy. Maybe it's that this campaign is giving people a way to stand up and speak. Whatever. If it's effective, what matter the means of getting this guy behind bars (I hope?). They will have succeeded if this ends up being the case.
  • Invisble Children has been at this for years, too. They originally went to Uganda a long time ago. The reason everyone cares now is because they have the means to communicate. With the internet, you can circumvent getting ignored by more traditional media.
  • tallchick said:
    The point is, we're mad as hell and we're not gonna take it anymore.


    Lol, I got that reference :)
  • GoodEnoughForMe said:
    Invisble Children has been at this for years, too. They originally went to Uganda a long time ago. The reason everyone cares now is because they have the means to communicate. With the internet, you can circumvent getting ignored by more traditional media.


    True, but the Internet has been around for a while now. And Kony has been on the run for years now too. Just seems kinda pointless to me. Like I said, he's already on the US hit list, and has been for a few years, so again, what's the point? What else do they want us to do? Or are these people advocating yet another liberation excursion? Is irony lost on these people? And my point still stands, if you want to raise awareness, getting your facts straight and not looking like total morons is a good first step. They need to raise awareness in the region affected if they want to get results....oh wait...they already know ALL about Kony in Africa. Guess we'll just have to settle with getting some armchair heroes in the western world in a huff. Send in Obama and the Liberation Brigade! To save the motherfucking day, yeah!

    Why don't you guys go get a war criminal that's within your reach? His name is George Bush. Shouldn't be anywhere near as elusive as Kony, or WMDs in Iraq, or Osama, or whatever.

    Yes, I'm cynical as fuck.
  • The US would never get Kony, which is what The Invisible Children want done (he's on the ICC list I think, anyways. The US really isn't interested in him). They've managed to create enough citizen lobbying for the 100 US troop advisors in Uganda to teach armed forces there how to pursue him.

    I imagine they consider that a moderate success.

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